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		<title>By: Red Rubber Jesus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Rubber Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Handled properly, the housing boom could have been a wonderful boon to our economy and to our society instead of our undoing.
The republicans and the moralists (hello Ruth) want to point fingers for political points but the real driver of this fiasco was greed.
Once Bear Steans with their Roof Top Mortgage and the other lenders, flush with freshly recycled Chinese and Arab Dollars took aim, it was only a matter of time until the system crashed.
Once Bear Stears, Countrywide, and Bank of America dispatched their legions of  commissioned loan brokers to all corners of the land and offered anyone with a pulse a loan, housing prices exploded.  Ordinary people began to feel that if they did not buy a house now that this would be their last chance.
 And the realtors piled on. I recall an internet ad for a Florida property which had a meter clicking, showing how much the value was rising per minute.Insane.  
No.  Irresponsible home buyers are not to blame and we all know it, whether some will admit it or not.    I will have to leave the question of ARM&#039;s to you and Ruth to decide.  But most all people will pay their house payments if at all possible.
A torrent of greed on the part of the lenders is the major cause of this and we all know it.  The lenders were the whores and their agents their pimps.  And we all know what happens to us when the pimps and whores show up.  We get .........!


&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Handled properly, the housing boom could have been a wonderful boon to our economy and to our society instead of our undoing.<br />
The republicans and the moralists (hello Ruth) want to point fingers for political points but the real driver of this fiasco was greed.<br />
Once Bear Steans with their Roof Top Mortgage and the other lenders, flush with freshly recycled Chinese and Arab Dollars took aim, it was only a matter of time until the system crashed.<br />
Once Bear Stears, Countrywide, and Bank of America dispatched their legions of  commissioned loan brokers to all corners of the land and offered anyone with a pulse a loan, housing prices exploded.  Ordinary people began to feel that if they did not buy a house now that this would be their last chance.<br />
 And the realtors piled on. I recall an internet ad for a Florida property which had a meter clicking, showing how much the value was rising per minute.Insane.<br />
No.  Irresponsible home buyers are not to blame and we all know it, whether some will admit it or not.    I will have to leave the question of ARM&#8217;s to you and Ruth to decide.  But most all people will pay their house payments if at all possible.<br />
A torrent of greed on the part of the lenders is the major cause of this and we all know it.  The lenders were the whores and their agents their pimps.  And we all know what happens to us when the pimps and whores show up.  We get &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Cactus Baseball</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cactus Baseball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subprime lending was welcomed with open arms when Wall Street figured out how much money they could make on &quot;Asset Backed Securities&quot;. Investor speculation and the irrational exuberance that fed the housing boom spread far beyond the original intentions of the Subprime executives expectations.. The lending guidelines were greatly relaxed at the insistence of the major Wall Street firms due to greed and stupidity.. There&#039;s a lot of blame to go around but I blame the ignorance and greed of Wall Street the most for the &quot;Perfect Storm&quot; we&#039;re going through now. &lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subprime lending was welcomed with open arms when Wall Street figured out how much money they could make on &quot;Asset Backed Securities&quot;. Investor speculation and the irrational exuberance that fed the housing boom spread far beyond the original intentions of the Subprime executives expectations.. The lending guidelines were greatly relaxed at the insistence of the major Wall Street firms due to greed and stupidity.. There&#8217;s a lot of blame to go around but I blame the ignorance and greed of Wall Street the most for the &quot;Perfect Storm&quot; we&#8217;re going through now. <br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Jupiter Ceasar Leprechaun II</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jupiter Ceasar Leprechaun II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tripled gas/fuel prices allowed/encouraged by Bush are the main culprit here shady bankers are also at fault&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tripled gas/fuel prices allowed/encouraged by Bush are the main culprit here shady bankers are also at fault<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Boss H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boss H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you mentioned, the ARM mortages have a great deal to do with the problem. But why where these given without credit checks to begin with, by fly-by-night mortgage companies?
Because they wanted to make their fees, and dump the rick on Fanie Mae and Freddie Mac. All they had to do is get the person to sign and sell it to the GSEs.
If it wasn&#039;t for this:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s106-900

We wouldn&#039;t have this problem.

Some of the creditors giving ARMS also thought they were going to be able to make some money of the people could afford them, then forclose and resell making even more.
Didn&#039;t work that way.
Then it didn&#039;t help that regulators where given less power in 1999 to actually do their jobs.
ARMs where being sold to Fannie and Freddie that were in violating of their standards. They were just being flooded with them by banks that wanted to make the profit but not keep the risk.

Even then people who weren&#039;t given ARMs coud afford their loans until high fuel prices and high food prices hit them, causing them to default.


TO blame this mess on banks giving loans to people who shouldn&#039;t have been given loans is highly inaccurate. Even upper middle class people took out ARMS having no clue that their payments where goin gto double in 6 months. They figured the interest may fluctuate a little so they may have had to pay $20 or 30 dollars more, not jump from $300 a month to $1800 a month.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you mentioned, the ARM mortages have a great deal to do with the problem. But why where these given without credit checks to begin with, by fly-by-night mortgage companies?<br />
Because they wanted to make their fees, and dump the rick on Fanie Mae and Freddie Mac. All they had to do is get the person to sign and sell it to the GSEs.<br />
If it wasn&#8217;t for this:<br />
<a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s106-900" rel="nofollow">http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s106-900</a></p>
<p>We wouldn&#8217;t have this problem.</p>
<p>Some of the creditors giving ARMS also thought they were going to be able to make some money of the people could afford them, then forclose and resell making even more.<br />
Didn&#8217;t work that way.<br />
Then it didn&#8217;t help that regulators where given less power in 1999 to actually do their jobs.<br />
ARMs where being sold to Fannie and Freddie that were in violating of their standards. They were just being flooded with them by banks that wanted to make the profit but not keep the risk.</p>
<p>Even then people who weren&#8217;t given ARMs coud afford their loans until high fuel prices and high food prices hit them, causing them to default.</p>
<p>TO blame this mess on banks giving loans to people who shouldn&#8217;t have been given loans is highly inaccurate. Even upper middle class people took out ARMS having no clue that their payments where goin gto double in 6 months. They figured the interest may fluctuate a little so they may have had to pay $20 or 30 dollars more, not jump from $300 a month to $1800 a month.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Mpeg4</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mpeg4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. The people listen to the liberal bias media elite and trust the spin coming out of the news room. It is presented in a deliberate fashion as to deceive the people into believing the manipulation. The media want you to vote for the party that will give them more power to control their bias views.

There are so many different reasons for the economic mess we are in and the blame starts with both houses of Congress! The Dems and Reps are both out to get the most money they can get.

Have you ever heard of a member of congress that is not a millionaire? The laws Congress passes are not in the best interest of the people. Laws are passed to gain favor or money for one lobbying group or business interest. 

The Economic mess was a direct effect of Mr. Rains being allowed to change the rules of how he and the upper management was paid on loans. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd for political donations changed the laws so money was paid to Rains for the amount of loans they bought, not the good loans that were paid. This opened the door for corruption. Rains and wall street bought these bad loans now because they knew they would be walking away with 100s of millions after they retired or the business was run into the ground.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. The people listen to the liberal bias media elite and trust the spin coming out of the news room. It is presented in a deliberate fashion as to deceive the people into believing the manipulation. The media want you to vote for the party that will give them more power to control their bias views.</p>
<p>There are so many different reasons for the economic mess we are in and the blame starts with both houses of Congress! The Dems and Reps are both out to get the most money they can get.</p>
<p>Have you ever heard of a member of congress that is not a millionaire? The laws Congress passes are not in the best interest of the people. Laws are passed to gain favor or money for one lobbying group or business interest. </p>
<p>The Economic mess was a direct effect of Mr. Rains being allowed to change the rules of how he and the upper management was paid on loans. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd for political donations changed the laws so money was paid to Rains for the amount of loans they bought, not the good loans that were paid. This opened the door for corruption. Rains and wall street bought these bad loans now because they knew they would be walking away with 100s of millions after they retired or the business was run into the ground.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Sage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing whatsoever to do with mortgages!!

So many wars started by one president resulting in trillions having been spent and continuing to be spent!!

Massive national debt and continuing to grow!!

But above all the gift given to the terrorists by devaluing the dollar after 9/11 that it has been unable to recover from!!

So short answer is George W Bush.  The sooner he goes and we get even a three year old child to run the country the more hope we have!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing whatsoever to do with mortgages!!</p>
<p>So many wars started by one president resulting in trillions having been spent and continuing to be spent!!</p>
<p>Massive national debt and continuing to grow!!</p>
<p>But above all the gift given to the terrorists by devaluing the dollar after 9/11 that it has been unable to recover from!!</p>
<p>So short answer is George W Bush.  The sooner he goes and we get even a three year old child to run the country the more hope we have!!<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: pizzballpete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pizzballpete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep, you nailed it, when i refinanced they tried every trick in the book, and then some to get me to sign on the line for an ARM, but my sister lost her home because of exactly what you have just stated here,
so i knew better than to fall for it~!!!

BUT THEY WERE PREYING ON THE UNINFORMED FIRST-TIME BUYERS, AND USING ILLEGAL TRICKS AND TACTICS TO DO IT~!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;pizzballpete!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep, you nailed it, when i refinanced they tried every trick in the book, and then some to get me to sign on the line for an ARM, but my sister lost her home because of exactly what you have just stated here,<br />
so i knew better than to fall for it~!!!</p>
<p>BUT THEY WERE PREYING ON THE UNINFORMED FIRST-TIME BUYERS, AND USING ILLEGAL TRICKS AND TACTICS TO DO IT~!!!<br /><b>References : </b><br />pizzballpete!</p>
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		<title>By: Punishment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Punishment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do not simply blame it on the Democrat&#039;s subprime mortgage lending. It was, however, the straw that broke the camel&#039;s back. It took massive stupidity, corruption and greedy pigs in the U.S. Congress and the White House to bring this all about. 

But most voters want all the culpable legislators and banksters etc. to get what they deserve. Whether the robbers came in the front door of the bank with guns or the bookkeepers inside take the money, the GD bank got robbed! Worse yet, the money is gone and they charged up trillions in debt against the bank. Just because there is no dead bodies or a smoking gun, they did it! And there must be justice. It must be extensive and they must all pay.

It seems clear to some of us that Obama and his backers will block justice. Otherwise, they will be caught up in the investigation and revealations. Obama will never allow that to happen. They must get Obama elected or they are ruined. They are now desperate to push Obama into office. They will use their allies in the &quot;news&quot; media, the funders, and anything they can do to make certain Obama wins. That is obvious to anyone who is not blinded by the &quot;hope and change&quot; mantra.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;The writing on the wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do not simply blame it on the Democrat&#8217;s subprime mortgage lending. It was, however, the straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back. It took massive stupidity, corruption and greedy pigs in the U.S. Congress and the White House to bring this all about. </p>
<p>But most voters want all the culpable legislators and banksters etc. to get what they deserve. Whether the robbers came in the front door of the bank with guns or the bookkeepers inside take the money, the GD bank got robbed! Worse yet, the money is gone and they charged up trillions in debt against the bank. Just because there is no dead bodies or a smoking gun, they did it! And there must be justice. It must be extensive and they must all pay.</p>
<p>It seems clear to some of us that Obama and his backers will block justice. Otherwise, they will be caught up in the investigation and revealations. Obama will never allow that to happen. They must get Obama elected or they are ruined. They are now desperate to push Obama into office. They will use their allies in the &quot;news&quot; media, the funders, and anything they can do to make certain Obama wins. That is obvious to anyone who is not blinded by the &quot;hope and change&quot; mantra.<br /><b>References : </b><br />The writing on the wall.</p>
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		<title>By: snowball45830</title>
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		<dc:creator>snowball45830</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a combination of people taking ARM mortgages they had no way of paying for three years down the road and the finance companies giving loans at 100% of home values with no chance of recovering their investment upon default.

The government could have fixed the whole problem if they had started earlier and just simply bought the bad mortgages and locked them in at normal bank rates. It actually would have been a profit for the government and maybe they could have thrown a little money in that joke they call social security.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a combination of people taking ARM mortgages they had no way of paying for three years down the road and the finance companies giving loans at 100% of home values with no chance of recovering their investment upon default.</p>
<p>The government could have fixed the whole problem if they had started earlier and just simply bought the bad mortgages and locked them in at normal bank rates. It actually would have been a profit for the government and maybe they could have thrown a little money in that joke they call social security.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Dapper Napper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dapper Napper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure, but hasn&#039;t the prime rate gone down over and over since? Exactly how is it that a lower interest rate caused this?&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure, but hasn&#8217;t the prime rate gone down over and over since? Exactly how is it that a lower interest rate caused this?<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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